Hacking Why the 3DS can't be downgraded on 11.4 "For Dummies" (A simple explanation for the rest of us)

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Hi, got luma8.1 on my 3ds but my fw is still on 11.2. So there is no reason to upgrade my fw to 11.4? I only use freeshop to update games, which I believe is dead now? GBA injector and I think that is all since the old 3ds is too weak for emulators and I am not sure what other homebrew worth checking out.
 

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Hi, got luma8.1 on my 3ds but my fw is still on 11.2. So there is no reason to upgrade my fw to 11.4? I only use freeshop to update games, which I believe is dead now? GBA injector and I think that is all since the old 3ds is too weak for emulators and I am not sure what other homebrew worth checking out.
If you want to use the eShop, or Pokémon bank, or play online, then update. If not, it doesn't matter whether you update or not.
 

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You realize that is explicitly states that they WILL NOT release those exploits untill end of life for the 3ds systems. Means we aint gonna be getting those anytime soon

The way support for the 3ds is right now (not too many games releasing for the system like earlier years), we might have EoL for 3ds around late 2018, early 2019. They did this pattern from GBA--->NDS, then NDS--->3DS where they supported the successful system before it was obvious that the new one would succeed too, then nintendo's major games were only then ported over. The switch is a bit unique because of what it is, but Pokemon Switch Version is following the pattern nicely; Nintendo knows the Switch sells, so Pokemon is getting a switch game.
 
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If you explain it to people then they won't feel like something's being hidden from them and keep asking.
If your child asks you for a dog, and you say no, and they ask why, and you say because I said so, they'll probably keep asking every week. Whereas if you say, because you're allergic and if you had a dog you'd hardly ever be able to breathe, well then the kid will be satisfied (if sad) and stop asking.

I'd like to have seen this comparison from you with a cat! [emoji12][emoji28]

@Swiftloke Thanks for the knowledgeable and informative explanation! As already mentioned, very well written and I am glad that this is stickied.
 
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Actually that's a pretty good point. With ntrboothax,downgrading is never required.

I bet another even more draconian banwave will be incoming.

On the plus side, with ntrhax open source, flash cart makers can implement their own support for it.

On the minus side, that probably includes Gateway,which will most likely have a new Gateway Fastboot and new nds cart. lol
 

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There won't be a DS if it was not for Acorn Archimedes and the Arm processor it is worth £24bn now..wow..

Anyway..;) I CFW my 3DS using my Acekard 2i and it work great,thanks to who ever made ntrboot.. :) that reminds me,got to play Elite later.. :P
 
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The future [what could be done for 11.4]
Well, put simply, to downgrade on 11.4, we need an arm9 exploit. Without being able to tell arm9 to not use the list, there's no way to downgrade via normal software. And if we have an arm9 exploit, there would be no reason to downgrade to 11.2 from 11.4.

Perhaps this should be updated to reflect that downgrades are now possible, regardless of firmware version, using MagnetHax (or NtrBootHax, or whatever it's now called). Since that's exploiting a bug in the bootrom, and the bootrom is non-upgradable, it's definitely possible... and doesn't require any hardware modifications. Thus, the title of this sticky'd thread is now somewhat misleading....
 

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Hello guys
I have a bricked new 3ds xl from downgrade, my question is can a hardmod fix this (injecting a 11.5 image CTRtransfer and replace the bad NAND) ?
 

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You should be able to fix it with a hardmod but it would likely be much easier to just get an ntrboothax compatible flash cart and use it to run GM9 at boot.
 
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