Van hits muslims on their way out from prayer

[Saiyan Lusitano]

Now there's been a police car crash in Paris.

 

[TheDarkGreninja]

It's infuriating that it has happened again. I don't care what one's beliefs are, innocent people are innocent. Period.

Seeing how Theresa May and the UK govt are pushing so hard for censorship it wouldn't come as a surprise if this was part of the plan to legalise 'Islamophobia' as a real hate crime.

God damn it. Just a day without some tragedy!

Do you mean islamophobia as in words, or killing muslim people?

 

[Saiyan Lusitano]

Do you mean islamophobia as in words, or killing muslim people?

Which one do you think?

 

[StarTrekVoyager]

Now there's been a police car crash in Paris.

Well, shit. Less than 10 miles away from where I live, again.

 

[Saiyan Lusitano]

Well, shit. Less than 10 miles away from where I live, again.

It's just part of living in a big city, you know.

 

[TheDarkGreninja]

Which one do you think?

Honestly, I don't have much of a clue.
Anyway, Racism is illegal and so is the hatred for any religion.
I think you should make the distinction though, Islamaphobia and criticism of Islam are two very different beasts.

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It's just part of living in a big city, you know.

It really is at this point, hopefully things die down as security is increased in Europe.

 

[Saiyan Lusitano]

Honestly, I don't have much of a clue.

The former.

It really is at this point, hopefully things die down as security is increased in Europe.

Western and Soutern Europe are screwed. These attacks aren't going to stop.

 

[TheDarkGreninja]

Eventually people will learn to abolish organized religion. Give it a couple hundred more years and another world war or two.

I dont think the world wars are a good example seeing as how they were fueled by nationalism.

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Western and Soutern Europe are screwed. These attacks aren't going to stop.

Just trying to stay positive in these trying times.

 

[Clydefrosch]

Tbh something like this was bound to happen at some point, sure it's a sick attack but given the spate of attacks this summer, one nut job was eventually going to think "fuck this lets see how they like it" (yes there is mental idiots on both sides)

Now I feel the real lesson to be learnt is to stop with the 2 teir policing which is breeding resentment on both sides, the fact non Muslims get hunted down and thrown in jail for stupidly throwing a bit of bacon whilst a radical Muslim with known extremist views just get added to a fantasy watch list but never detained unless they actually blow something up or stab someone is raising animosity way more than it otherwise would.

For a fair society to exist everyone must be treated equally

you seem to have some very interesting ideas of how everyone being treated equally works.

the thing is, as of now, its still not against the law to have radical views. not when it comes to islam, religion in general, weapons, politics or any other thing. just having views is not illegal.
which is why you can't just detain people for thought-crimes.

on the other hand, your 'non muslims throwing a bit of bacon' kinda frames the story i think you're referencing as if someone threw one piece of meat at some muslim on the street almost by accident, when it was two drunk guys, crashing a mosque during sermon, yelling obscenities and then throwing around bacon which in some way is the equivalent to crashing one of those black preaching churches, throwing bananas into the rows while imitating a monkey or something.

they were rightfully convicted on hate crime basis, to what i hear is barely a slap on the hand when it comes to minor crimes comited by muslims or black people, at least according to every other person commenting on news websites ever.

 

[Justinde75]

Ugh get that shit out of here. Dont bring these useless discussions in here. Literally nothing positive comes out of these threads.

 

[_v3]

Useless bloodshed, when is it going to end???
They took it out on people who were, most probably, completely innocent. There's no justification for taking someone's life, makes me sick that these people live among us.

 

[emigre]

As a Welshman, I want to categorically state this Darron Osborne does not represent all Welshmen.

 

[OverBlade24]

Of course it was not justified, but you can not definitively state that the victims were innocent either.

So someone with no connection to another person is at fault because the other chooses to kill someone in a false ideal.
These terrorists are false Muslims that use Islam as a scape goat to hide their bitch asses behind. So how are you going to push this on to someone and say they can die because of what other people did. Just cuz some white guy shoots up a school, is it then justifiable to kill whites. You can not justify the murder of someone innocent

 

[Deleted-355425]

So someone with no connection to another person is at fault because the other chooses to kill someone in a false ideal.
These terrorists are false Muslims that use Islam as a scape goat to hide their bitch asses behind. So how are you going to push this on to someone and say they can die because of what other people did. Just cuz some white guy shoots up a school, is it then justifiable to kill whites. You can not justify the murder of someone innocent

If that so why do they not kill any Muslims in the UK or any other EU country on these terrorist attacks? I read of a terrorist attack where the ISIS fighters went about the streets firing on people and killing them yet one person they came across in a restaurant started speaking out loud from the Koran and so they didn't shoot them and let them live? If you ask me this is a Religion and not just a scapegoat situation.

 

[OverBlade24]

So if a white guy has a fight with a muslim guy and makes him scared to go out, does that make the white guy a terrorist ? If the 2 London attacks and Manchester attack had not happened in the past 3 months, this would be talked about as a hate cime not terrorism

Your comparison here is fuckin retarded. I didn't know a fist fight and ramming into people stood on the same level of crime. Thanks for informing me

 

[TheDarkGreninja]

Ugh get that shit out of here. Dont bring these useless discussions in here. Literally nothing positive comes out of these threads.

I consider all forms of discussion positive. Usually these threads get locked down because one nut job wants to talk about the most off topic crap.

 

[gjac1]

Your comparison here is fuckin retarded. I didn't know a fist fight and ramming into people stood on the same level of crime. Thanks for informing me

Did you read what i was replying to ?? I was replying to a comment saying terrorism is something that describes "putting fear in someones heart" , so i was saying that making a muslim scared is an act of terrorism ??

The only retard here is you, ramming people with a car because you wanted to kill some people of a different race, sex, sexual orientation or religion to you is a HATE CRIME. This guy was not part of a terror group or was brainwashed by far right views online, he is unstable.

The English PM is calling this a terror crime just to please the muslims , end of

Stop with your noob comments if you have no idea what you are talking about

 

[TheDarkGreninja]

If that so why do they not kill any Muslims in the UK or any other EU country on these terrorist attacks? I read of a terrorist attack where the ISIS fighters went about the streets firing on people and killing them yet one person they came across in a restaurant started speaking out loud from the Koran and so they didn't shoot them and let them live? If you ask me this is a Religion and not just a scapegoat situation.

What the hell are you on about?

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Did you read what i was replying to ?? I was replying to a comment saying terrorism is something that describes "putting fear in someones heart" , so i was saying that making a muslim scared is an act of terrorism ??

The only retard here is you, ramming people with a car because you wanted to kill some people of a different race, sex, sexual orientation or religion to you is a HATE CRIME. This guy was not part of a terror group or was brainwashed by far right views online, he is unstable.

The English PM is calling this a terror crime just to please the muslims , end of

Stop with your noob comments if you have no idea what you are talking about

Terrorism:
the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

Political aims is a vague term. However, killing innocent people is always a terrorist attack.
Moreover, it's this bullshit logic that grinds my gears, your argument boils down to "If he's not muslim, he isnt a terrorist"
You see, if I, a British Muslim, went out and killed a bunch of white people because of my hatred for what white people, would you call that a hate crime?
9 times out of 10 you'll say it "was fueled by his religious beliefs" which I can assure you is bullshit as all my siblings, parents and my wife are white.

So to make this clear, terrorism is a number of things, there is no clear-cut definition of it.

 

[OverBlade24]

If that so why do they not kill any Muslims in the UK or any other EU country on these terrorist attacks? I read of a terrorist attack where the ISIS fighters went about the streets firing on people and killing them yet one person they came across in a restaurant started speaking out loud from the Koran and so they didn't shoot them and let them live? If you ask me this is a Religion and not just a scapegoat situation.

This contains script from the *Qur'an (you're welcome). Just cuz you are on a killing spree and you see a cute child and do not kill him/her, does not equal you becoming a good person or a hero.

 

[TheDarkGreninja]

yet one person they came across in a restaurant started speaking out loud from the Koran and so they didn't shoot them and let them live? If you ask me this is a Religion and not just a scapegoat situation.

Just re-read this and it gave me a good chuckle. If these guys want to look like genuine Islamists why would they kill muslims? Just think about that for a sec, it has nothing to with religion, it's basic logic.
It's like shooting your own foot.
Would you kill British expats in other countries and then go on to say "We british need to stick together"? No, it doesnt make any sense, why would you kill one of your own if you truly want to push an agenda?
That's like killing every liberal that would vote and going on to say "I'm a liberal." You clearly are not if you're going to kill every one of your own.
Would you say "I love mother" and then kill her? No, it's self-contradictory.