Hacking "What is a legit cia?" (and other noob CIA questions ANSWERED)

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i'm preparing to do a system transfer.
i installed some legit cias, but forgot which ones I installed that were legit.
is there anyway to check which ones on my 3ds are currently legit (and should transfer in a system xfer) and which ones aren't legit?
 

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Hello, thanks for putting time into this guide. However, I am just unclear about one thing.
If I buy a legit game cart (like Pokemon Sun) and dump it and installed with FBI, I can play the game without the game cart, is this correct? If this is true, then someone could borrow friend's games and install them, then give them back.
 

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Hello, thanks for putting time into this guide. However, I am just unclear about one thing.
If I buy a legit game cart (like Pokemon Sun) and dump it and installed with FBI, I can play the game without the game cart, is this correct? If this is true, then someone could borrow friend's games and install them, then give them back.
You cannot generate legit .cia files from cartridges, they can only be generated from pre-installed titles. If you have CFW you can generate a .cia file from a cartridge, though it wouldn't be legit (and so installing it would require CFW as well).
 

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You cannot generate legit .cia files from cartridges, they can only be generated from pre-installed titles. If you have CFW you can generate a .cia file from a cartridge, though it wouldn't be legit (and so installing it would require CFW as well).
Thanks a lot for answering quickly. So is there a way to "patch" these .cia files? Also, this means that the game cart dump I did is NOT safe online.
 

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Thanks a lot for answering quickly. So is there a way to "patch" these .cia files? Also, this means that the game cart dump I did is NOT safe online.
A converted CIA is probably as safe as any other, so far nobody has been banned for using CIA files with the exception of people using Pokémon sun/moon before release and people cheating online, legit CIA files can only exist for games that came preinstalled on consoles, you cannot just convert any game into a legit CIA unless by some bizarre turn of events Nintendo do something stupid and release their own private signing keys
 
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When using FBI, do I want to "delete the title and tickets", or just the title? Reading this thread it seems tickets mean I "bought" the content, so whats the point of keeping them/not keeping them? Any conflict if I were to install the content again?
 

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When using FBI, do I want to "delete the title and tickets", or just the title? Reading this thread it seems tickets mean I "bought" the content, so whats the point of keeping them/not keeping them? Any conflict if I were to install the content again?
I would delete title + ticket, as reinstalling the ticket would be trivial, but keeping it can cause issues with the eShop if you ever feel like being legit in the future.
 

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Sorry if someone had asked this question before but is it possible to dump a cartridge game into a CIA by using soundhax to access homebrew and then arm9 game dumper option? Could I install CIA without legit running CFW?
 

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Sorry if someone had asked this question before but is it possible to dump a cartridge game into a CIA by using soundhax to access homebrew and then arm9 game dumper option? Could I install CIA without legit running CFW?
If you don't have Arm9loaderhax, you can't dump game, and without cfw, you can't play them anyway. You also cannot install cia that aren't legit.

Legit cia games are the only games you can find when purchasing a system that has it pre installed. For example, pokemon x/y Fire emblem fates Complete edition, pokemon red,blue,yellow are legit cia games.
 
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Sorry if someone had asked this question before but is it possible to dump a cartridge game into a CIA by using soundhax to access homebrew and then arm9 game dumper option? Could I install CIA without legit running CFW?
To answer your question you can do so if you are on 11.2 or less. But you wouldn't be able to play it until you installed a9lh & Luma. So you may as well do that first.
 
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I have a CIA file and I want to extract its encrypted title key so I can download the CIA with FunKeyCIA
  • type: FunKeyCIA.py -title XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX -key XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
How can I get the part for -key ??

I extracted my title.db, the *.tik files but I'm not sure where to go from there now
 

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Hello everyone, I have a question.
Can I use nintendo data transfer to transfer legit cia installed on a 3ds to an other 3ds with no cfw (firmware:11.3)?

No, that doesn't work unfortunately. (Unless you are talking about a legit cia that came preinstalled on your source-device, this one you can transfer via System Transfer)
 

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I Talk about universal legit cia (like pokemon moon or smash bros Found on internet) installed on the 3ds

It doesn't change anything. A clean and legit cia can be installed directly into the sysnand (although you need some hacks to install them, if you are <=11.2) and can play them without CFW or any hacks. But you can't transfer them. I know from experience. If you were on a FW lower than 11.3 then you could reinstall the tickets to "reactivate" the games, but for that you need hacks and to my knowledge there is no way (yet) on 11.3
 
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It doesn't change anything. A clean and legit cia can be installed directly into the sysnand (although you need some hacks to install them, if you are <=11.2) and can play them without CFW or any hacks. But you can't transfer them. I know from experience. If you were on a FW lower than 11.3 then you could reinstall the tickets to "reactivate" the games, but for that you need hacks and to my knowledge there is no way (yet) on 11.3
ok thanks for the response.
Now, I have to wait until firmware 11.3 can be hack :(
 

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I have a CIA file and I want to extract its encrypted title key so I can download the CIA with FunKeyCIA
  • type: FunKeyCIA.py -title XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX -key XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
How can I get the part for -key ??

I extracted my title.db, the *.tik files but I'm not sure where to go from there now
Not sure how to get them from your files but you can get them from the 3DS titlekeys site. If the key doesn't exist in the database then it's a perfect opportunity to upload your dectitlekeys file and increase the number of games available :-)
 

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I've got a9 and on the root of my SD card is a folder called "updates" with a bunch of cia's. What are they? Can I safely delete it? It's not on the list in the guide. 143mb. 134 cia files.
 

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