Hardware [Shitty speculation] What are the odds for an Android port once the Switch is hacked?

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It's got about as much possibility as the Wii U gamepad being usable in Wii mode. Yeah I know it's still possible (probably) but who knows when it'll happen (IF if ever happens).
 

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If you want Android on a switch so badly, why no get a cheaper android device? which not only has more power but doesn't require years of waiting before it being hacked?

In all seriousness.
I'm pretty sure slim to none.
 

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The chances are almost zero as Nintendo will likely use a custom API. The original Xbox is basically a Celeron-based PC with an NV2.5 GPU and we still haven’t figured out how to effectively emulate it or port its content to PC. There were some attempts, but not terribly successful, and you can expect similar porting from the Switch. You'll have better luck emulating the whole thing.
 

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The services & processes are so tied-in to the OS on the typical device that I think it's completely fair to call Android a malware/spyware OS. Even when removing the native spyware apps after rooting.

There is no practical way for the average user to separate them from the OS; even as an advanced user after rooting you are only doing some of the job by disabling most of them. If you want APKs without using the Play Store, you can get them through third party websites too (some of which directly download from Google's Play Store). But lots of apps and games rely on Google Play Services and related framework being on the device. And that's without talking about the security practices (and 'apparently benign' spyware apps & hardware from Mediatek and other chipset manufacturers). 99.99% of thid-party apps and games on the platform have free reign to the data on your device, and free reign to your camera, mic, gps, location data, calendar, contacts, etc. Copious hardware and software backdoors, etc.

I guess we can split hairs and talk about 'open source' as much as we like, but I still consider Android nothing but spyware for the masses (as are all the popular OSs). Yes, people can do some great things with it, without the Google BS, but that's not what the average person is seeing from Android.
No, third-party apps and games do not get access to your data, camera, mic, gps, location, calendar or contacts unless you specifically grant them access. Since Android Marshmallow you can deny app permissions and still be able to use the app, and in previous versions you have to accept the permissions on install. You are fully aware of what permissions you are granting to apps and if you see something that looks suspicious, just don't install the app, or if you have a more recent Android version you can have your cake and eat it too and not have to worry about 3rd party apps spying on you since you can just deny them the permission.
Your posts just sound like blatant scaremongering to me. I think you've been reading too many bullshit posts online. Don't trust everything you read.
Unless you can provide some proof of your claims about surveillance and spying I'm not inclined to believe it or your claims that Android is a spyware OS.
 
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No, third-party apps and games do not get access to your data, camera, mic, gps, location, calendar or contacts unless you specifically grant them access. Since Android Marshmallow you can deny app permissions and still be able to use the app, and in previous versions you have to accept the permissions on install. You are fully aware of what permissions you are granting to apps and if you see something that looks suspicious, just don't install the app, or if you have a more recent Android version you can have your cake and eat it too and not have to worry about 3rd party apps spying on you since you can just deny them the permission.
Your posts just sound like blatant scaremongering to me. I think you've been reading too many bullshit posts online. Don't trust everything you read.
Unless you can provide some proof of your claims about surveillance and spying I'm not inclined to believe it or your claims that Android is a spyware OS.
Android, iOS and Windows, collect lots of data by default to run their assistants and search engines effectively (Google Now, Cortana/Bing Search, Siri) for targeted ads and more relevant results, they also collect biometric data and usage logs to create an app priority list (among other things) and enhance security - the former can be disabled, the latter cannot. Claiming that any of the big three are "spyware OS" is ridiculous, you agree to participate in data collection upon first boot and you can manage what's collected yourself. Collecting data without the user's consent is illegal and goes against many laws, for instance the UK's data protection act. None of those companies would risk having their OS banned for shady shit, it's all in the open.
 
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Don't forget Windows 95 on iPhones...
That's through an x86 emulator/virtual machine (I remember using Bochs on my old smartphone), it's not exactly the same as running the OS natively through a bootloader like in the case of HTC Polaris.

I myself ran Gentoo Linux, or at least someone variety of it, on my Mio A701 WinMo phone - god, I loved that thing. Phones suck pretty badly now in comparison.
 
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That's through an x86 emulator/virtual machine (I remember using Bochs on my old smartphone), it's not exactly the same as running the OS natively through a bootloader like in the case of HTC Polaris.

I myself ran Gentoo Linux, or at least someone variety of it, on my Mio A701 WinMo phone - god, I loved that thing. Phones suck pretty badly now in comparison.
I think I might spend some money on an HTC Polaris since mine's broken and my Nexus 4 is fucking up. Or, I'll switch to a Nokia 3310.
 

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Your posts just sound like blatant scaremongering to me. I think you've been reading too many bullshit posts online. Don't trust everything you read.

No. Android (not just Android) has more holes, backdoors & exploits than swiss cheese. If you are following any security researchers you would see this. And then the chipset manufacturers on top of this. And then the apps on top of this. Depends on how into security you are as to whether you know how much data is siphoned off and archived without your permission and regardless of your desires. All the things you wrote about are common knowledge. Basically, the user has little to no control over their data today. Even when they think they have some, it is often easily bypassed without their consent. I stand by my assertion that it's a spyware/malware OS.

There is an absolute disregard for what little privacy there is left. All the common OSs are backdoored to heck, open source or not.
 
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No. Android (not just Android) has more holes, backdoors & exploits than swiss cheese. If you are following any security researchers you would see this. And then the chipset manufacturers on top of this. And then the apps on top of this. Depends on how into security you are as to whether you know how much data is siphoned off and archived without your permission and regardless of your desires. All the things you wrote about are common knowledge. Basically, the user has little to no control over their data today. Even when they think they have some, it is often easily bypassed without their consent. I stand by my assertion that it's a spyware/malware OS.

There is an absolute disregard for what little privacy there is left. All the common OSs are backdoored to heck, open source or not.
Every piece of software has holes in it. By calling it a spyware OS you're making it sound like they're putting holes in it on purpose and lying about it though, and that's just not true. However what Foxi4 said is true.
I do admit you get limited privacy online these days, datamining is a big business and everyone wants to profit from it. That's not the same thing as spyware though and there's no real way you can avoid it.
 
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Sorry that I don't have anything to say, but thank you for putting the shitty speculation tag, I really appreciate it. There should be a lot of threats with that tag, not because I am against this kind of speculation threats, but because the tag is a reminder and indicator that we shouldn't take this info accurate and is just people's opinions.
 
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Sorry that I don't have anything to say, but thank you for putting the shitty speculation tag, I really appreciate it. There should be a lot of threats with that tag, not because I am against this kind of speculation threats, but because the tag is a reminder and indicator that we shouldn't take this info accurate and is just people's opinions.
I know.

I was really hyped and wanted to know what everyone thinks about it, but I know that speculating about that without even knowing what their OS looks like or what chipset the Switch actually uses, it doesn't make a lot of sense.

//Sent from my glorious OnePlus X
 
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why is evryone so hyped about porting android shit to console better port linux/unix will end in way more benefits than crappy android
 

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why is evryone so hyped about porting android shit to console better port linux/unix will end in way more benefits than crappy android
I just want the huge variety of emulators that Android has.

If all these emus are on Linux, I wouldn't mind.

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Every piece of software has holes in it. By calling it a spyware OS you're making it sound like they're putting holes in it on purpose and lying about it though, and that's just not true.
Not true according to who? Google is in bed with the NSA & various gov agencies. Read up on what the NSA does. Let alone countless spy angencies worldwide funded by their lovely taxpayers. There is no incentive for them not to put backdoors in every single device we use. And there is no incentive for them not to collaborate with chipset companies and phone companies and networking equipment manufacturers on a hardware level too (also verified to be true if you opened your eyes). And there is no incentive for them not to fund & release countless spyware apps and games which we use daily. That is what there is no incentive for. Open your eyes and you'll see it to be true. I can provide countless links if you can't do that.


Ya know, I always wondered why not. It boggles my mind that nobody would take the initiative to port Android to a console that should have been running it in the first place.
Several reasons I wouldn't use Android 'in the first place' if I were CEO:
* unnecessary payment of patent royalties to the (likely) tune of hundreds of millions (if not billions) over the life of the console
* To improve performance of the Switch & not make another 'me too' Android device doing what everyone else is doing. I'd put my best people on that: hardware and software. After all, this will be selling several years in the future, probably with only little tweaks to the base hardware and software
* Switch has to be unique enough to have something not easily copyable by every phone and tablet manufacturer
* I'd be interested in making it far more secure than Android too (for obvious reasons) & far less prone to hacking
 
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Not true according to who? Google is in bed with the NSA & various gov agencies. Read up on what the NSA does. Let alone countless spy angencies worldwide funded by their lovely taxpayers. There is no incentive for them not to put backdoors in every single device we use. And there is no incentive for them not to collaborate with chipset companies and phone companies and networking equipment manufacturers on a hardware level too (also verified to be true if you opened your eyes). And there is no incentive for them not to fund & release countless spyware apps and games which we use daily. That is what there is no incentive for. Open your eyes and you'll see it to be true. I can provide countless links if you can't do that.



Several reasons I wouldn't use Android 'in the first place' if I were CEO:
* unnecessary payment of patent royalties to the (likely) tune of hundreds of millions (if not billions) over the life of the console
* To improve performance of the Switch & not make another 'me too' Android device doing what everyone else is doing. I'd put my best people on that: hardware and software. After all, this will be selling several years in the future, probably with only little tweaks to the base hardware and software
* Switch has to be unique enough to have something not easily copyable by every phone and tablet manufacturer
* I'd be interested in making it far more secure than Android too (for obvious reasons) & far less prone to hacking
Yes, please provide some links.
 
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