Hacking USB Loader GX: Black screen when loading Wii games

[Cyan]

Would either want to know what the possible problem is, or how to start over from the very beginning.

You mentioned wiimote disconnecting, it's usually a cIOS incorrectly installed. But you said you tried reinstalling cIOS few times so it's less chance to be the issue.
it's really strange that wiimote unsync.

Black screen could be a lot of different cause, but the wiimote I don't know.
For example, you may have accidentally enabled "debug start" option, and it's waiting on a black screen for a debugger tool command to start the game.

You want to start over, so :
go into USBLoaderGX settings > reset settings.
or delete the entire "usbloader_gx" folder and reinstall it again.
Be sure to launch it from HBC, or be sure you are using the forwarder and not the full channel (or you'll actually be launching an old version of the loader)

if you are on Wii, I'd recommend d2x v8 base57.

 

[Rockschuppen]

Hey guys,

it would be nice if you could help me too. Please don't be mad with me if this is the wrong place.

I have exactly the same problem with my emunand/wiiware games (I didn't tested my wbfs files, 'cause I'm using cfg for them, works).

Now, I tried everything I read in this thread, but they won't run.
I tried with d2x-v10beta52 --> Black Screen
I tried with d2x-v10beta53-alt --> goes back to Homebrew

My Syscheck:

SysCheck HDE v2.4.0 HacksDen Edition by JoostinOnline, Double_A, R2-D2199, and Nano
...run on IOS58 (rev 6176).

Region: PAL
System Menu 4.3E (v514)
Priiloader installed
Drive date: 18.12.2008
Homebrew Channel 1.1.2 benutzt IOS58

Hollywood v0x21
Console ID: 138260168
Console Type: Wii
Shop Channel Country: Germany (78)
Boot2 v4
Found 107 titles
Found 55 IOS on this console. 13 of them are stubs.

IOS3 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS9 (rev 1034): No Patches
IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
IOS11 (rev 256): Stub
IOS12 (rev 526): No Patches
IOS13 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS14 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS15 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS16 (rev 512): Stub
IOS17 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS20 (rev 256): Stub
IOS21 (rev 1039): No Patches
IOS22 (rev 1294): No Patches
IOS28 (rev 1807): No Patches
IOS30 (rev 2816): Stub
IOS31 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS33 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS34 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS35 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS36 (rev 3608, Info: rev 3351): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS37 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS38 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS40 (rev 3072): Stub
IOS41 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS43 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS45 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS46 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS48 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS50 (rev 5120): Stub
IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
IOS52 (rev 5888): Stub
IOS53 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS55 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS56 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS57 (rev 5919): No Patches
IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
IOS60 (rev 6400): Stub
IOS61 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS62 (rev 6430): No Patches
IOS70 (rev 6912): Stub
IOS80 (rev 6944): No Patches
IOS202[38] (rev 65535, Info: hermes-v5.1): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS222[38] (rev 65535, Info: hermes-v5.1): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS223[37] (rev 65535, Info: hermes-v5.1): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS224[57] (rev 65535, Info: hermes-v5.1): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS236[36] (rev 65535, Info: rev 3351): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS245[37] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS246[38] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS247[53] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS248[55] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS249[56] (rev 21010, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS250[57] (rev 21010, Info: d2x-v10beta53-alt): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS251[58] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS254 (rev 65281): BootMii
BC v6
MIOS v10
Report generated on 12/07/2016.

I hope you have any idea. thank you

Sorry for my bad english.

 

[Cyan]

it's not easy to help you, knowing you tried all our ideas and possibilities and it still doesn't work :/
did you try another loader? you will know if the issue is USBLoaderGX or not. If it's doing the same in another USB Loader, then you'll know it's not a setting, but probably your hardware or your softmod which is the cause.
did you try another device? you will know if the issue is your hard drive or flash drive, etc.
did you try another SD card? you ... yeah, same as above
Did you try switching the emuNAND path on SD <-> USB ?
Did you try using Sneek? neek2o? Nswitch? maybe your emuNAND is at fault, not your settings.
did you try another console with your same SD and HDD and homebrew settings? you will know if the issue is the console or your hardware.

Try as much different thing as you can to narrow the possibilities.
If switching something is doing the same, you can think "it's not that, let's try something else until I find what is the cause of this issue"


Without more information, it's not easy to tell you what to do. you only told us that "you have the same problem" (I guess, black screen).
You tried d2x r52 instead of r53, which is already a good thing
As you are on Wii, you could even try v8 instead of v10

 

[Rockschuppen]

...

Hi, thanks so far.

- I think my emunand is okay. Created it with Simple FS Dumper and edited with ShowMiiWads.
- emuNAND path is okay, I keep it on SD (btw: the Games are shown, it opens the channel look, but when I start it goes to blackscreen)
- I tried uLoader but it works only with usb and its stuttering the whole time without starting a game (tried different versions),
- I tried Mighty Channels, it ends in a strange error code.
- Triiforce MRC v10 works well with the games, but the GUI is awful when you have a lot of games, but games are working!

I'm very sure my hardware and softmod are okay, but I don't know which cIOS will work with emuNand + USBLoaderGX. As you can see in my syscheck I installed different d2x. I changed the ios-setting in USBLoader to test the cios.

I also thought about a sdcard problem, so I made an emunand on USB but still get blackscreen.

Question: Is it right that triiforce is using the hermes-cios I installed? Wanted to try those with my usbloader but it tells me to switch to a d2x cios. I'm also unsure about the revision-numbers, i.e.
IOS249[56] (rev 21010,Info: d2x-v10beta52). Shall I try it with rev 21?

If you need more information just ask. Thank you in advance!


Edit:
found this one: https://www.reddit.com/r/WiiHacks/comments/411g8y/cant_get_virtual_console_wiiware_titles_to_work
Maybe the mistake is that my SD-card fat32 system isn't 32k clustered. Will try this tomorrow.

Or maybe you have another idea, I don't want to reformat, there are toooo much big WADs on my sd

 

[Cyan]

I think triiforce and mighty channel are using the cIOS in slot t249, without any way to choose the slot. it just use what's located there.

you said you tried emuNAND on USB, did you make it with simple FS dumper too?
there is a small chance that the issue is FS dumper, which is using IOS58 and doesn't act like cIOS.

some files on NAND can have filename with characters incompatible with FAT32 naming convention. both IOS58 and the cIOS may (not sure, I never checked simple FS dumper sources) not be converting these incompatible characters to the same compatible code on FAT32 drives. The issue is that the wii is expecting a non FAT32 character, but the cIOS is not re-encoding it back for the wii because it doesn't understand the code used by FSdumper.
(that was the long explanation).
some games, like harry potter, have savegame filename incompatible with FAT32. I don't know other games, I just remember that one.

Did you try making a new dump using cIOS on your slot 249, using USBLoaderGX's internal NAND dumper? that way, you'll use the same cIOS for both creating the NAND dump and reading it from emuNAND.
be sure settings>loader's settings>Loader's IOS is set to 249 (or you see 249 in the credit page)
settings>user path>emuNAND channel : create a new empty folder for a new dump (sd or usb)
settings>features>Dump NAND>Full
don't add new channels to it yet, just try to run an already installed channel in emuNAND mode full, and see if it's still not working.
this way we will do two tests at the same time : testing if FSdumper is the issue, and testing if one of the game you added is corrupting the emuNAND file system.

 

[Rockschuppen]

Hey Cyan,

you are awesome. I created my nand dump with usbloadergx on USB. Installed some wads and it seems to work. Now I'm installing 400 wad's using usbloadergx. Hopefully there is no corrupted game

I will tell you if everythings cool when its ready in an hour :/

Thank you so far.

Edit: Whoop whoop, it is working! Cyan, you are my god!

 

[Kony91BC]

Hey, same problem here. I described it also in this topic.

https://gbatemp.net/threads/usb-loader-gx-unable-to-launch-a-second-time.455674/#post-6979488

It's not of an utmost import for me, since I know that the 8gb thumb drive works, although I would really love to use that 32gb just because its more convenient than juggling the the isos on 8gb. Is there any solution to force this thumb drive to work?

 

[Cyan]

flash drives are not the best for the Wii and WiiU, even nintendo officially tell users to not use them. (maybe for another reason, but they are not officially supporting them)

 

[Mr.MII]

I can't get Scrabble wii to work on USB loader gx.

Spoiler: Syscheck

sysCheck v2.1.0b19 by Double_A and R2-D2199, Nano
...runs on IOS58 (rev 6176).

Region: NTSC-U
System Menu 4.3U (v513)
Priiloader installed
Drive date: 2006.09.07
Homebrew Channel 1.1.0 running on IOS58
HomebrewFilter ist nicht installiert
Hollywood v0x11
Console ID: 45612318
Boot2 v4
Found 129 titles.
Found 55 IOS on this console. 5 of them are stub.

IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS9 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
IOS11 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS12 (rev 526): No Patches
IOS13 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS14 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS15 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS16 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, Flash Access, NAND Access
IOS17 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS20 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS21 (rev 1039): No Patches
IOS22 (rev 1294): No Patches
IOS28 (rev 1807): No Patches
IOS30 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS31 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS33 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS34 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS35 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS36 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS37 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS38 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS40 (rev 3072): Stub
IOS41 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS43 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS45 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS46 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS48 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS50 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
IOS52 (rev 5888): Stub
IOS53 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS55 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS56 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS57 (rev 5919): No Patches
IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
IOS60 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS61 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS62 (rev 6430): No Patches
IOS70 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS80 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS90 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS202[60] (rev 65535, Info: hermesrodries-v6): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS222[38] (rev 4, Info: hermes-v4): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS223[38+37] (rev 4, Info: hermes-v4): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS224[57] (rev 65535, Info: hermesrodries-v6): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS236 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS245[37] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS246[38] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS247[53] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS248[55] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS249[56] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta53-alt): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS250[57] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta53-alt): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS251[58] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS254 (rev 65281): BootMii
BC v6
MIOS v65535

Report generated on 2017/01/09.
/SPOILER]

 

[John_Ice]

I can't get Scrabble wii to work on USB loader gx.

Spoiler: Syscheck

sysCheck v2.1.0b19 by Double_A and R2-D2199, Nano
...runs on IOS58 (rev 6176).

Region: NTSC-U
System Menu 4.3U (v513)
Priiloader installed
Drive date: 2006.09.07
Homebrew Channel 1.1.0 running on IOS58
HomebrewFilter ist nicht installiert
Hollywood v0x11
Console ID: 45612318
Boot2 v4
Found 129 titles.
Found 55 IOS on this console. 5 of them are stub.

IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS9 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
IOS11 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS12 (rev 526): No Patches
IOS13 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS14 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS15 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS16 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, Flash Access, NAND Access
IOS17 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS20 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS21 (rev 1039): No Patches
IOS22 (rev 1294): No Patches
IOS28 (rev 1807): No Patches
IOS30 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS31 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS33 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS34 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS35 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS36 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS37 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS38 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS40 (rev 3072): Stub
IOS41 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS43 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS45 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS46 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS48 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS50 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
IOS52 (rev 5888): Stub
IOS53 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS55 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS56 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS57 (rev 5919): No Patches
IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
IOS60 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS61 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS62 (rev 6430): No Patches
IOS70 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS80 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS90 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS202[60] (rev 65535, Info: hermesrodries-v6): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS222[38] (rev 4, Info: hermes-v4): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS223[38+37] (rev 4, Info: hermes-v4): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS224[57] (rev 65535, Info: hermesrodries-v6): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS236 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS245[37] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS246[38] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS247[53] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS248[55] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS249[56] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta53-alt): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS250[57] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta53-alt): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS251[58] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS254 (rev 65281): BootMii
BC v6
MIOS v65535

Report generated on 2017/01/09.
/SPOILER]

Try it with :
IOS249[56] d2x-v8final
or
IOS250[57] d2x-v8final

Instead of
IOS249[56] d2x-v10beta53-alt
or
IOS250[57] d2x-v10beta53-alt

 

[Mr.MII]

Try it with :
IOS249[56] d2x-v8final
or
IOS250[57] d2x-v8final

Instead of
IOS249[56] d2x-v10beta53-alt
or
IOS250[57] d2x-v10beta53-alt

That's what I had on it before

 

[John_Ice]

That's what I had on it before

Ok. And have other games working ? Do you use USB stick or HD ? WBFS files ?

 

[Mr.MII]

All my other games work. I have tried forcing pal but it goes white screen weird thing. Force NTSC is just black screen. Kingston data traveler USB stick. Yes wbfs and I use wii backup manager build 78 I have been modeling my wii for years and can't figure out why this game won't work.

 

[John_Ice]

All my other games work. I have tried forcing pal but it goes white screen weird thing. Force NTSC is just black screen. Kingston data traveler USB stick. Yes wbfs and I use wii backup manager build 78 I have been modeling my wii for years and can't figure out why this game won't work.

Maybe you have to try another version of this game to see if it will work. Because now you have IOS249[56] d2x-v10beta53-alt and IOS250[57] d2x-v10beta53-alt and if you don't have a good reason to use these cIOS, it's done nothing to use them, they have a less compatibility games.

If somebody can confirm this game work with a certain setting, it will help you.

 

[GreyWolf]

Did you check the game partition on the disc and make sure it's valid? You can use Dolphin to do it: Right-click on game>Properties>Filesystem>right-click on game partition.

 

[tony_2018]

Man, I had the same situation. I believe it to be a mix of things: wbfs format with wbfs files, trying to install updates and then ending up updating the wii to 4.3U by using modmii's tailored instructions. Finally it all worked, got rid of wbfs manager and starting using wii backup manager(way better), I was able to download covers without it crashing for some reason and usb loader was able to see all my backups. Before it only recognized 2 of them.

 

[dAVID_]

So, i instaled d2x v6 into ios 248.
I go into usb loader gx.
I try loadng AC: CF
Black screen.
I can't install a later version of d2x, when i choose the version v6 is as far as i can go.
Followed GWHT.

 

[GreyWolf]

So, i instaled d2x v6 into ios 248.
I go into usb loader gx.
I try loadng AC: CF
Black screen.
I can't install a later version of d2x, when i choose the version v6 is as far as i can go.
Followed GWHT.

Get this zip file: https://storage.googleapis.com/goog.../v2/code.google.com/d2x-cios/d2x-v8-final.zip
Unzip it to your d2x installer folder in /apps so the "ciosmaps.xml" file is in the directory with the sample one along with the "d2x-v8-final" folder.

 

[Cyan]

or this full pack, if you can't manage to extract a zip to an existing folder:
d2x installer full pack for Wii

 

[Shanixer]

I too am having this problem (when i try to load a game i get a black screen)
i am using a 32 gig Sandisk thumb drive(cruzer glide) formatted to fat32, and an 8 gig sandisk sdhc.
and my system version is 4.3U
be aware I am fairly new to softmodding and stuff so some things may have to be explained to me
thanks if anyone can be of help!


I have fixed it!! i needed to format my flash drive to wbfs format.