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Even if it didn't would it really matter? Flash and java from a consumer perspective are on death's door.

That said I still favour bringing the noise. Get enough people with random lookups of all sorts of sites all the time and it becomes a whole lot less useful.

I still hope the system will crash and burn.

If not from general goverment incompetance in it's implementation, then once the data gets leaked & it will, hopefully that prompt more of an outcry. Already seen plenty of idiots with the "if you have nothing to hide" nonsense, see how well that holds up when their entire history is out for others to see.
 
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Been using a VPN for a long while, pay for a decent one that doesn't keep logs and lets you torrent :)
 

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...l-becomes-law-extending-uk-state-surveillance

Given royal assent.

"The Home Office says some of the provisions in the act will require extensive testing and will not be in place for some time. However, powers to require web and phone companies to collect customers’ communications data will be in force before 31 December, the date when the current Data Retention and Investigatory Powers Act 2014 expires."

Privacy is dead without so much as a whimper.
 

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Good news, it's not law quite yet, it's awaiting royal consent, and the petition to repeal it has got enough signatures to demand a rethink.
Personally I think this is beyond disgusting. VPN recommendations anyone?
 

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Good news, it's not law quite yet, it's awaiting royal consent, and the petition to repeal it has got enough signatures to demand a rethink.
Personally I think this is beyond disgusting. VPN recommendations anyone?

It has it. See my previous post. By 31st of December isps are going to have to log.

As for VPNs, I use nordvpn.

No logs, not based out of a five eyes country. Speed has been fine for me. 72Mb down & 18.7Mb over my normal connection. . VPN speeds are 68 down and 17.8 up.
 

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Since when has waiting for the monarch's signature (assent is the actual word) changed anything? Actually a search says 1707 was the last one and as much as this unsettles me I think having the monarchy overrule it would be worse. High courts or the European court of human rights are my bets for something to happen, well that and technical impracticality.
 

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Didn't take long. It's been given royal assent, and has been written into law.
Source: http://www.bit-tech.net/news/bits/2016/11/30/ip-bill-becomes-law/1

Time to go into hiding and crack out the tin foil hats! The government and third party agencies will all be able to access our ISP records of websites and communications going back for no less than 12 months!

Edit..... I should really check that there's a second page before I post :unsure:
 
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Tor is overrated, it's fairly easy to track someone with it and loads of sites enable cloudflare which means using tor you have to fill in a shitty jewgle captcha that doesnt even work - it just glitches out and says it can't connect!
b-but all the l33t hackars use it!!! i larend that from top 10 youtube channels!!!
 
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Didn't take long. It's been given royal assent, and has been written into law.
Source: http://www.bit-tech.net/news/bits/2016/11/30/ip-bill-becomes-law/1

Time to go into hiding and crack out the tin foil hats! The government and third party agencies will all be able to access our ISP records of websites and communications going back for no less than 12 months!

Edit..... I should really check that there's a second page before I post :unsure:

Can't wait for the first leak. All those agencies that can access it, no way there will be a breach. Our goverment has a perfect history of security with confidential data :rofl2:.

Also can't wait for them to tangle with apple etc. There's another clause somewhere in there that essentially says "needs to be a backdoor to decrypt stored data". We already know apples position on that, so will be interesting to see.
 
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I'm confused. I thought the UK ISPs already had to hold logs for the last 6 years anyway?
They hold connection logs (IP addresses) but this extends the requirement of those logs to register websites and communications (e.g. Skype, Facebook, whatsapp, etc) so that they even know who you're talking to or what you're looking at on the websites (they don't explicitly say content but it's implied).
 

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what you're looking at on the websites (they don't explicitly say content but it's implied).

No. It's not content. Only the ip & possibly, but doesn't have to, the service name or main website. Specific pages on the domain are not allowed to be logged as it's classed as content. This has been made very clear by the goverment, that it's only metadata, no actual content.

http://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-polic...owers-act-privacy-disaster-waiting-to-happen/

"will be required to create Internet Connection Records (ICRs) for all their users, and to store them for a year"

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The government factsheet on ICRs describes them as follows:

Internet connection records are records captured by the network access provider (e.g. the Internet Service Provider or Wi-Fi operator) of the Internet services with which a uniquely identifiable device (e.g. a laptop or mobile phone) interacts.

It will involve retention of a destination IP address but can also include a service name (e.g. Facebook or Google) or a web address (e.g. www.facebook.com or www.google.com) along with a time/date.

It could never contain a full Web address as under the law these would be defined as content.
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"As here, the government has emphasised repeatedly that the ICRs contain "only" metadata, not content"


No content.
 
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Question, using hide.me will give them the ip of hide.me, or any ip i connect inside it?

Btw, hope we don't get this on spain, but we're near...

Edit: post #500!!!
 

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Oh I forgot to update this.

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2016/dec/21/eus-highest-court-delivers-blow-to-uk-snoopers-charter

Not that it means much for the UK now, but at least it's clear for everyone else (Read the Netherlands and Germany wanted to have stronger/similar laws).

As for us, at least until with withdraw it should hold it up long enough for the legal challenge in the UK again. Going back to the appeals court (Orginally High court ruled against it, appeal court push it to ECJ, so now it will come back to appeal).

There is no ruling against targetting collecting, just this mass collection nonsense with no real safeguards other than someone high enough up the chain to sign off it on.

I'll still be using a vpn for the foreseeable future.


It's nice, take back control, control used to spy on us
 
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It has it. See my previous post. By 31st of December isps are going to have to log.

As for VPNs, I use nordvpn.

No logs, not based out of a five eyes country. Speed has been fine for me. 72Mb down & 18.7Mb over my normal connection. . VPN speeds are 68 down and 17.8 up.
I recommend Nord VPN as well and take a look at ipleak.net, im using it in Germany. BTW Torrents are illegal in Germany (without protection you can get fines up to 1000 € or more).
 
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Looked at ipleak when I first got the vpn. It's a good site. While my router is shit and doesn't actually have ipv6 support yet, so no leaks there, didn't know about webrtc, which is disabled now. Although in this case (privacy from rediculous laws), I don't think webrtc would matter as only the destination could use it to reveal ip, isp systems would still just see the vpn adress and nothing else.
 

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Looked at ipleak when I first got the vpn. It's a good site. While my router is shit and doesn't actually have ipv6 support yet, so no leaks there, didn't know about webrtc, which is disabled now. Although in this case (privacy from rediculous laws), I don't think webrtc would matter as only the destination could use it to reveal ip, isp systems would still just see the vpn adress and nothing else.

Buffered VPN is good and it's got good support for Android, as I use it on my phone at work, so I can tether their internet and use Kodi and US netflix.
 
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