Hacking Fail0verflow release more... somethings.

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EoF plz

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Whole fail0verflow team including Hector Martin Cantero (aka 'marcan') already got sued by SONY in the past. Can't see any logical reason WHY they would release anything at all!
 

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Whole fail0verflow team including Hector Martin Cantero (aka 'marcan') already got sued by SONY in the past. Can't see any logical reason WHY they would release anything at all!
Then leave this site because you obviously don't get it.
 

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Was being sarcastic. Honestly, it annoyed me a little; "Why be on this site at all?" Seriously, just about anything on this site would be "Ethically wrong" in the eyes of Nintendo. Backups of games? Some features unlocked?
 

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Okay, this is nice and creative and all but ...
and I may resort to desperate measures.
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...The meaning of the NUMBERS has been painfully obvious from the beginning since they are also the titles of the previous posts in the blog.

Here are the titles and when they were made :
8 days = 8 days after the the European Wii U release.
11 days = 11 days after the release
14 days = 14 days after
30 days and a congress = 30 days after and coincidentally the post says that it involved 30 hackers and 3 tables (presumably the congress)

Hackers directly involved in the process have already confirmed that A and B represent the Wii U's ARM and PowerPC processors (that the Wii and Wii U both have.) And have stated that every pixel counts but that seems to just be referring to the troll face hidden in the image.

THE MYSTERY is mostly in exactly WHAT the hashed shown in this and the previous 4 posts (mentioned in the image) are hashes of as well as what exactly the ? represents. The hackers have already confirmed that they are hashes of things that Nintendo should recognize and just showing their hashes is kinda just to rub in the fact that they've found them. They've also said that they know exactly how the ? works.

The arrows haven't been explained specifically either but it seems logical that the double headed arrow represents the communication that exists between the two processors and the directional arrows just mean that what they found one day led them to be able to get what they found the other day.

Just a small correction: the hashes are not of what they found EXACTLY. It's concatenated with more text to conceal the hash origin's from Nintendo...
 
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Then leave this site because you obviously don't get it.
Ray Lewis, it's you who don't get it. Hacking is not about Robinhooding here and there. It's all about knowlege, challenges and accomplishments. That's why all you get is hashes, because it's enough proof of their achievments (and because they afraid of lawsuits after whole SONY incident).
 

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Ray Lewis, it's you who don't get it. Hacking is not about Robinhooding here and there. It's all about knowlege, challenges and accomplishments. That's why all you get is hashes, because it's enough proof of their achievments (and because they afraid of lawsuits after whole SONY incident).
Okay, lol. So why do people always release it then? And mention releasing what they do? Here is a hash: kjlkeeee99009870983-lk3nlkjr4iopfu90oidufpoijda;lfkjdpioujipj and it proves I was able to get the private key on the Wii U. There, I am proud of myself, and although I knew I could do it, I just had to go through the motions and release nothing. No big deal, I prefer basketball to anything else anyway, and if nothing released, easy enough to sell my Wii U.
 

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Just a small correction: the hashes are not of what they found EXACTLY. It's concatenated with more text to conceal the hash origin's from Nintendo...
Okay, that was actually what I thought first when I saw this
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<@sven> just hashing the things makes it easy for ninty to see what we have :-)
<@sven> it could be sha(binary + "lol, suck it. this is <blahblah>")
and it's definitely still a very valid interpretation since it's literally what sha(binary + "lol, suck it. this is <blahblah>") means when it's interpreted as programming code in many programming languages.

When I thought about it, though, he said right before that that it was to make it easy for Nintendo to identify and actually concatenating that would make it extremely difficult so I settled on the interpretation of
"the SHA1 shows the binary and says "lol, suck it. this is <blahblah>" to Nintendo.

but either interpretation makes sense ... that was just my personal view on it, I guess.

EDIT : now that I look at it, yeah, he could also have been saying "just hashing it makes it too easy for Nintendo to see what we have" on the first line there which I guess makes more sense overall.
 

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Ray Lewis, it's you who don't get it. Hacking is not about Robinhooding here and there. It's all about knowlege, challenges and accomplishments. That's why all you get is hashes, because it's enough proof of their achievments (and because they afraid of lawsuits after whole SONY incident).
And another thing; obviously this SONY you worship was very effective as everyone still hacks counsoles;-) No lifetime ban on computers? No prison? Not even a slap on the wrist for Marcan? Wow, and those bad 360 hackers who sell RGH chips and make parts used for hacking it--guess they should be shaking in their boots also. Not only was it hacked, but on official stores and trusted sites you can buy parts for that. So I fail to see your point about failoverflow being in such fear, lol.
 

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Okay, that was actually what I thought first when I saw this
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<@sven> just hashing the things makes it easy for ninty to see what we have :-)
<@sven> it could be sha(binary + "lol, suck it. this is <blahblah>")
and it's definitely still a very valid interpretation since it's literally what sha(binary + "lol, suck it. this is <blahblah>") means when it's interpreted as programming code in many programming languages.

When I thought about it, though, he said right before that that it was to make it easy for Nintendo to identify and actually concatenating that would make it extremely difficult so I settled on the interpretation of
"the SHA1 shows the binary and says "lol, suck it. this is <blahblah>" to Nintendo.

but either interpretation makes sense ... that was just my personal view on it, I guess.

EDIT : now that I look at it, yeah, he could also have been saying "just hashing it makes it too easy for Nintendo to see what we have" on the first line there which I guess makes more sense overall.
It's pretty common to add random gibberish to something you're hashing when it comes to stuff like passwords. "Salting" passwords is common practice. Just doing sha1(privatekey) would give their findings away pretty easy. Nintendo could just do the same and see if the hashes match. Adding random gibberish (aka salting) makes that pretty much impossible, so they are just hiding it this way.
 
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It's pretty common to add random gibberish to something you're hashing when it comes to stuff like passwords. "Salting" passwords is common practice. Just doing sha1(privatekey) would give their findings away pretty easy. Nintendo could just do the same and see if the hashes match. Adding random gibberish (aka salting) makes that pretty much impossible, so they are just hiding it this way.
This could be also proof that they did it first, aka: if You get private keys and add "mike333 0wnz da box" You make hashes which we presented long time ago.
 

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And another thing; obviously this SONY you worship was very effective as everyone still hacks counsoles;-) No lifetime ban on computers? No prison? Not even a slap on the wrist for Marcan? Wow, and those bad 360 hackers who sell RGH chips and make parts used for hacking it--guess they should be shaking in their boots also. Not only was it hacked, but on official stores and trusted sites you can buy parts for that. So I fail to see your point about failoverflow being in such fear, lol.
As far as I remember, they where lucky enough and got offer from sony and accepted their agreements so lawsuit was closed. Things changed a lot since then in ps3 scene, all you get now is leaks, drama and bullshit. And do you think hackers like to see how those chinese pirating modchip manufacturers profit from their work?
Anyway, those people are not that stupid to repeat this whole story and risking personal lifes so just some nintendo kids could pirate games. They share information within group, and there's events like 29C3 so they feel satisfied.
 

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As far as I remember, they where lucky enough and got offer from sony and accepted their agreements so lawsuit was closed. Things changed a lot since then in ps3 scene, all you get now is leaks, drama and bullshit. And do you think hackers like to see how those chinese pirating modchip manufacturers profit from their work?
Anyway, those people are not that stupid to repeat this whole story and risking personal lifes so just some nintendo kids could pirate games. They share information within group, and there's events like 29C3 so they feel satisfied.
Only one talking piracy is you, lol.
 
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