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I am not a hard core gamer and really don't pay attention to all the details. I just like playing video games, especially handhelds.

Was just about to buy the Madden Bundle on Amazon, then I see at the very bottom of the description that the battery is not removable. To me that is the ultimate deal breaker, so I will not be buying myself a Vita.

I guess I am going buy myself the 3DS XL instead. What the hell is wrong with Sony?
 

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I love all the retarded reasons people come up with to NOT buy something, over some legitimate reasions.

I mean that's fine, but why do people think other people give a shit by posting a pointless thread about it.
 

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I am not a hard core gamer and really don't pay attention to all the details. I just like playing video games, especially handhelds.

Was just about to buy the Madden Bundle on Amazon, then I see at the very bottom of the description that the battery is not removable. To me that is the ultimate deal breaker, so I will not be buying myself a Vita.

I guess I am going buy myself the 3DS XL instead. What the hell is wrong with Sony?
How many times have you removed your DS/Lite/i's battery?
 

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Indeed, it's not a very good reason. Back in the day of Ni-Mh batteries, where you practically had to swap the battery every few years due to decreasing capacity, this would be a problem. Nowadays, with Li-Poly and Li-Ion batteries a good few generations in development, plus battery saving circuitry built-in consoles, the battery is going to last you. The Vita will be in "active service" for at least 7 years, so even if you do experience battery failure, you will find replacements and I don't think that the disassembly process would be difficult.

In other words, don't worry about the battery. At all.
 

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I am not a hard core gamer and really don't pay attention to all the details. I just like playing video games, especially handhelds.

Was just about to buy the Madden Bundle on Amazon, then I see at the very bottom of the description that the battery is not removable. To me that is the ultimate deal breaker, so I will not be buying myself a Vita.

I guess I am going buy myself the 3DS XL instead. What the hell is wrong with Sony?
How many times have you removed your DS/Lite/i's battery?
I removed my DS battery a lot.
I liked taking the thing apart and cleaning it. :3
 

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Non removable battery is a deal breaker? wow.
Not entirely farfetch'd (lol).

Just today, my friend's phone locked up hardcore... no buttons would respond or anything. His phone was a Droid Razr Maxx... which has a non-removable battery. Normally the "easy and dumb fix" for such a situation would be to pull out the battery, but how's he supposed to do that? Well, he had to go to the Verizon store to get them to somehow push a command to force the phone to reset. And all I could think about is "yea, and what if he can't reach a store or contact anyone to do that for him?"

That said, if i got a Vita, I would certainly hunt down getting that Nyko extended battery for it, just like the one I have on my 3DS.
 

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Not entirely farfetch'd (lol).

Just today, my friend's phone locked up hardcore... no buttons would respond or anything. His phone was a Droid Razr Maxx... which has a non-removable battery. Normally the "easy and dumb fix" for such a situation would be to pull out the battery, but how's he supposed to do that? Well, he had to go to the Verizon store to get them to somehow push a command to force the phone to reset. And all I could think about is "yea, and what if he can't reach a store or contact anyone to do that for him?"

That said, if i got a Vita, I would certainly hunt down getting that Nyko extended battery for it, just like the one I have on my 3DS.

Because it's so hard to Google. Most devices that have non-user-removable batteries have a hard reboot key combination that resides somewhere in the devices firmware. Droid Razr Maxx, hold that for a few seconds. Nexus 7, hold power/lock for ~10 seconds. IDevices you can hold either the lock/power or center button (don't remember which, don't own any apple products except for an old iPod classic (hold Menu+Center if it locks up, btw))

Or, you know, let the battery run out. Unless you're in a life or death situation, at which point resetting the phone probably isn't the first on your list to do, most smartphones will last only a few hours with constant screen-on time.
 
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We were outdoors, and he's not the most computer savvy person. He just lucked out in getting himself a high-end phone for absurdly cheap.

No need to be an absolute dipshit about it.

Again, Google. Manufacturers don't expect everyone to know every key combination their devices have. I had to look that up for the Maxx, had to look it up for my Nexus 7, had to look it up for my iPod way back when. But there's plenty of things with non-removable batteries. That fact alone hardly makes an item worth not purchasing.
 

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This seems like a really dumb reason not to buy something.
Also most likely Sony isn't allowing the battery to be removed because of Pandora Battery for the PSP. I doubt they want a repeat of that to happen again.
 

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Again, how the fuck is he supposed to google when the phone won't respond to anything? /facepalm

God invented these things called home computers.
You can use them for such conveniences, like googling random facts, and downloading porn.
...and maybe other things.

and don't give the outdoor excuse because you did say he went to a verizon store to get it fixed...
Though seriously usually just holding buttons on a phone for 10-20 seconds will solve your hard reset problem...or most handheld devices.
 

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Or, you know, you could try answering the question with some modicum of manners and etiquette, and not someone straight out of 4chan's /b/.

I myself have also encountered that kind of annoyance with my PSP go as well, and even Sony's online manual doesn't actually detail how to actually force it to power down when it hard locks like that. Thankfully, it hasn't happened often, but I also know that with my phone, no such button combination works. Removing the battery is the only way I ever get to get it to reset in that event.
 

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Or, you know, you could try answering the question with some modicum of manners and etiquette, and not someone straight out of the internet.

Or a person could spend much less time and simply do this.

Literally that's all anyone else does when someone asks a dumb question.
 

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I can't blame people for deciding a device is not worth buying if it does not have a feature that is available in other competing devices or as an acquired standard in the generalized devices. I wouldn't buy one either, but mostly because it is a sony product.
 

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I can't blame people for deciding a device is not worth buying if it does not have a feature that is available in other competing devices or as an acquired standard in the generalized devices. I wouldn't buy one either, but mostly because it is a sony product.
It is stupid if it's a feature they won't use.

Do people refuse to buy cars because they don't have the ability to tow loads in the back if they never plan to do it?
Do people refuse to buy TVs that won't take an analog radio signal if they're in the middle of a city and will use cable and the hookups?
Do people refuse to buy a jacket with a gun pocket if they don't have a gun and don't plan to get one?
 

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Not entirely farfetch'd (lol).

Just today, my friend's phone locked up hardcore... no buttons would respond or anything. His phone was a Droid Razr Maxx... which has a non-removable battery. Normally the "easy and dumb fix" for such a situation would be to pull out the battery, but how's he supposed to do that? Well, he had to go to the Verizon store to get them to somehow push a command to force the phone to reset. And all I could think about is "yea, and what if he can't reach a store or contact anyone to do that for him?"

That said, if i got a Vita, I would certainly hunt down getting that Nyko extended battery for it, just like the one I have on my 3DS.
He could just wait for the battery to die by iself.
 

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